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  • 1.  Application access via ZTNA "connectors" -- what are your experiences?

    Posted Sep 18, 2024 12:24:00 PM

    Team,

    I am reviewing leveraging ZTNA, ZT Network Access "connectors".  Some examples SASE vendors are Zscaler, Palo Alto, Netskope, CloudFlare, etc...

    I believe Zscaler might be leading the market at the moment regarding application "connectors": Zscaler Client Connector

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    I am interested in feedback from early adopters regarding this technology, pros and cons etc...

    Please reply in the thread or reach out directly...

    Be well,



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    Joe Dietz, Jr.
    Cybersecurity Architect
    Deloitte
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  • 2.  RE: Application access via ZTNA "connectors" -- what are your experiences?

    Posted Sep 19, 2024 08:30:00 AM

    On what basis do you think they are leading the market on this Joe? Is it a single or blended metric? Are we talking most deployed endpoints, ability to deploy on most endpoints/environments/use cases supported, features and functions delivered? Also, wrt Zscaler are we talking access to private apps (ZPA) or public apps (ZIA)??



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    Philip Griffiths
    Head of Business Development
    NetFoundry
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  • 3.  RE: Application access via ZTNA "connectors" -- what are your experiences?

    Posted Sep 19, 2024 10:28:00 AM

    I appreciate your engagement...

    The focus is on the client "connect" aspects of ZTNA, ZPA.  The use case is removing publicly facing apps and putting them behind "the vpn".  Allowing employees to access the app via the ZTNA connect via the ZT Exchange.  The technology is attractive as connections are initiated "from" the application "connect proxy" outbound to the exchange, so corporate applications are never exposed to the public Internet.  Not to mention the detailed identity aspects of the authorization for the application ;-)

    Similar technology from Palo Alto Prisma is still on the road-map...

    Palo Alto recently acquired Talon to help in this area...

    I hope this helps clarify the ask...



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    Joe Dietz, Jr.
    Cybersecurity Architect
    Deloitte
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  • 4.  RE: Application access via ZTNA "connectors" -- what are your experiences?

    Posted Sep 19, 2024 01:05:00 PM

    Hey Joe, thanks for the clarification. Zscaler and ZPA is definitely doing well in this regard, but I think NetFoundry is more advanced. I should note, I do work for NetFoundry so I am biased. That said, lets look at why I believe this:

    • NetFoundry built and maintains OpenZiti, an open source ZTNA. While we also deliver a commercial equivalent, the open source nature means it is and will become the de facto standard that everyone adopts. Company adopting it include a cyber security unicorn, one of the 4 hyperscalers, several large industrial OEMs, large US defence contractors and many more.
    • NetFoundry can support any use case, not just remote access (incl. N-S, E-W, OT/IoT, M2M) to extend ZTN to anything. This is part of why is is being adopted in the OT space where they need machine to machine, airgapped, real-time and L2 connections, and more.
    • NetFoundry provides its own PKI instead of using external OICD/SAML. This ensures mTLS and E2EE everywhere (Zscaler uses TLS so you 'trust' their infra) while supporting external identity provides to replace primary or additional secondary.
    • NetFoundry follows the same outbound-only, deny-by-default, least privilege, microsegemented model, though it can also operate like a VPN if you want it to.
    • NetFoundry can operate anywhere, and brings its own resilient, HA, smart routing overlay (think ZTNA + SDWAN having a baby); this is part of the reason for adoption in defence where airgapped is standard.
    • NetFoundry includes SDKs so we can embed ZTN as part of the Software Development Lifecycle which is far more secure and easier for users. This includes 'clientless' endpoints which actually bring mTLS, E2EE, and more to the browser without the user or IT admins doing any hacks in the background.

    If you fancy it, I did a presentation at the CSA a few weeks back - 'Zero Trust Networking for difficult use cases-Multi-Cloud/OT/IoT, air-gapped networks and more' which acts as a good intro - https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7221461016088375297. 

    Regards

    Philip



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    Philip Griffiths
    Head of Business Development
    NetFoundry
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  • 5.  RE: Application access via ZTNA "connectors" -- what are your experiences?

    Posted Sep 19, 2024 01:11:00 PM

    Philip,

    I actually attended the CSA call where you presented...good stuff.

    I am hoping to get feedback from folks who have used this tech... ;)

    Ty for your continued collaboration...



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    Joe Dietz, Jr.
    Cybersecurity Architect
    Deloitte
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  • 6.  RE: Application access via ZTNA "connectors" -- what are your experiences?

    Posted Sep 19, 2024 01:44:00 PM

    :)



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    Philip Griffiths
    Head of Business Development
    NetFoundry
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  • 7.  RE: Application access via ZTNA "connectors" -- what are your experiences?

    Posted Sep 24, 2024 07:09:00 AM

    Hi Joe, 

    You are correct in your assessment. Having worked at Netskope and Zscaler being their primary competition for most of their deals, I can attest that Zscaler has significant market leadership as a single SASE vendor with more comprehensive SASE product portfolio. Zscaler connector and similarly Netskope Private access(ZTNA solution) are touted as replacement to enterprise VPN solutions to provide more granular app based access instead of Network access. I can provide vendors perspective if that's helpful. Do let me know. 

    Thanks.



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    Milind Gunjan
    5G Security Architect
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