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Meeting Minutes of ZT 1+2 Joint call, Friday 7th.

  • 1.  Meeting Minutes of ZT 1+2 Joint call, Friday 7th.

    Posted 25 days ago

    Dear members,

    Below you can find the meeting minutes from the Biweekly AM meeting of the CSA Zero Trust workgroup for the combined ZT1+2 workstreams: ZT1: Zero Trust as a Philosophy & Guiding Principles and ZT2: Zero Trust Organizational Strategy & Governance that took place today, 7th of June.

    Minutes:

    The meeting began with discussing the update of the Zero Trust Guiding Principles paper into version 1.1.
    The newer version will be updated with AI references.
    Discussion followed with integrating AI with Zero Trust, highlighting the mutual benefits and challenges of this integration, particularly in a zero-trust world. The discussion then shifted to assessing organizations' progress on their Zero Trust journey and the challenges of AI implementation, cautioning against outdated approaches and emphasizing the importance of training AI in a non-sterile environment. The meeting also covered the CSA's AI working groups' responsibilities, and the potential risks and benefits of integrating AI into Zero Trust strategies. Security concerns related to AI impersonation and fraud prevention, as well as the significance of voice security measures, were also discussed. The meeting concluded with a focus on enhancing awareness and understanding of AI and Zero Trust concepts within the organization through guidelines, training, and presentations to the non-technical community.

    Integration of AI with Zero Trust

    • The conversation highlighted the mutual benefits of AI and Zero Trust, emphasizing how AI can improve Zero Trust efficiency and how Zero Trust can enhance the security of AI models.
    • The discussion delved into the challenges of training and updating AI models within a zero-trust world, where the risk of flawed models recognizing threats as normal poses significant security concerns.

    Zero Trust Journey Assessment

    • The decision-making process focused on assessing the advancement of organizations in their Zero Trust journey and the necessity of understanding the benefits derived from a Zero Trust perspective.

    Challenges with AI Implementation

    • Discussion on the importance of not training AI applications in a sterile environment to ensure recognition of non-sterile elements, highlighting the challenges of sandboxing and alert fatigue.
    • Reflection on the need to avoid getting trapped in traditional thinking.

    Zero Trust and AI Integration

    • The concern raised about the potential risks of integrating AI into Zero Trust strategies without a solid understanding of Zero Trust first to prevent confusion and security vulnerabilities.
    • Highlighting the fact that AI tools can be used by attackers to breach security measures, emphasizing the need for awareness and preparedness.
    • Discussing the potential benefits of using generative AI models to simplify tasks for employees and the importance of being aware of AI applications beyond just attackers.
    • Considerations were made to include awareness in guidelines, provide role-based training, and present to the non-technical community for better understanding and adoption of AI and Zero Trust concepts.
    • Discussion on aligning guiding principles with existing content rather than introducing new concepts for the current version, with plans for more significant changes in the next iteration.
      • For the updated version of the ZT Guiding Principles v1.1 the group discussed potentially revising the abstract based on the final graphic chosen for the document.

    Next steps:

    • Joy ( @Heverin Joy Williams) to send Marina the AI generated images for the iterated v1.1 ZT Guiding Principles that will be updated with AI references
    • Marina to answer on possible shorter peer review period for this document.
    • Marina to try to combine the 2 AI generated images of the new document version into one.

    Next ZT 1+2 working group call:
    Date: June 21st 
    Time: 14:00 CET 
    URL: https://cloudsecurityalliance.zoom.us/j/88570173422?pwd=tLOYkq4C0SDcH78Lja4BBKz4DFf6Ui.1 (Meeting ID: 885 7017 3422, Passcode: 652105)

    Kind regards,
    Marina



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    Marina Bregkou,
    Senior Research Analyst,
    CSA
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